I asked how the editing process works. ‘I fix a meeting with the poet. We get together for an afternoon and work our way through the poems. The poet revises, we meet again and so on, probably two or three times more. And finally we work out an order.’

And what about choice of contents? ‘We agree it – obviously what they want to put in is important, but it’s also the ones I like. Funny this process of liking things – why one likes what one likes. I do want to like the poems in the pamphlet I’m publishing. I’m quite interventionist in that way.’

After that Michael emails the pamphlet to his friend Dean Parkin, the first ever Garlic Press poet and designer, who typesets it in Quark ready for the printer, a local firm, and provides proofs which Michael and the poet both check.